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even in this low environment how do you do it? what's the plan? >> you do more deposits, more loans. in fact, last year our net interest income, the difference between what we get on the loans versus what we pay on deposits, an endless margin, dropped 18 basis point but we actually grew net interest income so you do more, and we've dealt with this low rate environment before. do i think rates are too low? yes. a lot of monetary stimulus, but we're able to operate in that environment, and it's been a real bargain for borrowers. on the other hand, savers have paid a real price. >> how do you offset that knowing that it's become tougher to make money in banking? >> well, this year we grew revenues by 6% quarter over quarter from a year ago and 6% you took the whole year. almost all of it on the non-interest income side. half of our revenues come from fee for services, mortgage brokerages, other things so we don't only live on the margin, if you will, so think of a company that can produce those kind of revenue numbers with no help from the margin or
even in this low environment how do you do it? what's the plan? >> you do more deposits, more loans. in fact, last year our net interest income, the difference between what we get on the loans versus what we pay on deposits, an endless margin, dropped 18 basis point but we actually grew net interest income so you do more, and we've dealt with this low rate environment before. do i think rates are too low? yes. a lot of monetary stimulus, but we're able to operate in that environment, and...
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against that backdrop, you have a pretty risky environment in the sense that pcs are going through a lot of change right now. so while the valuation of dell stock is pretty darn attractive and i understand the rationale in this low interest rate environment to want to do a deal, because the deal is so large and there's uncertainty around dell's pc core business, i think when push comes to shove, the deal does not get done. >> i want to underscore one of the top rated analysts doesn't think that it's going to happen. shares are moving a little bit higher. stocks almost 23% at this point. obviously had that huge move yesterday. where does that leave the company's future, toni? what are they going to do? >> look, i think the company has been very deliberate in laying out a strategy, which is, we're going to try and move away from pcs. we're going to take our cash and buy companies to try and make us more of an enterprise player. one of the benefits of not going private is you have more degrees of freedom. you don't have to use your cash flow to pay down debt. you can use your cash flow
against that backdrop, you have a pretty risky environment in the sense that pcs are going through a lot of change right now. so while the valuation of dell stock is pretty darn attractive and i understand the rationale in this low interest rate environment to want to do a deal, because the deal is so large and there's uncertainty around dell's pc core business, i think when push comes to shove, the deal does not get done. >> i want to underscore one of the top rated analysts doesn't...
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people see a generally positive environment for those stocks. i think lmomentum continues there. >> you are seeing flows into materials and technology, but a flo flow out of staples and health care, correct? >> it's clear as day. for etf investors, all risk on and out of risk off. we've seen a billion dollars flow out of telecom, utilities and a couple billion dollars flow into the risk on sectors like materials, industrials and tech. that's where investors are placing their bets for this earnings season. at least etf investors and so far it's paid off. >> matt, it's tim. how about the etfs that correspond to treasury movements last year, this was a trade that everybody got on, because everybody assumed rates had to go higher eventually. where are people lining up in this? this ite >> we should look very closely as what investors are doing in the bond space. i think they are taking a hands off approach. they are certainly shortening their duration and they are actually outsourcing their active management into funds like bond. we are seeing those
people see a generally positive environment for those stocks. i think lmomentum continues there. >> you are seeing flows into materials and technology, but a flo flow out of staples and health care, correct? >> it's clear as day. for etf investors, all risk on and out of risk off. we've seen a billion dollars flow out of telecom, utilities and a couple billion dollars flow into the risk on sectors like materials, industrials and tech. that's where investors are placing their bets...
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the environment we live in is still conducive to be la tij jous because no one can make any money. carl, back to you. >> rick, we'll talk to you in a bit. rick santelli. >>> goldman is making waves with its bonus payouts. mary thompson has a flash. >> the company confirming that goldman has decided not to delay the bonus payments until april which would have allowed the bonuses to be taxed at a lower rate. goldman sachs' stock is slightly higher, about three-quarters of a percent. those payments originally due here in the u.s. in 2013 but the company, again, accelerated those payments into 2012 to take advantage of lower tax rates. again, the uk says -- someone close to the company saying that after some consideration, it will not be delaying bonus payments there to take advantage of lower rates. back to you. >> yeah, not the only bank where compensation is in the news. thank you, mary. >>> a few minutes left in europe's trading days. simon hobbs in less than 60 seconds. and i jumped right on it. tdd# 1-800-345-2550 tdd# 1-800-345-2550 since i've switched to charles schwab... tdd#
the environment we live in is still conducive to be la tij jous because no one can make any money. carl, back to you. >> rick, we'll talk to you in a bit. rick santelli. >>> goldman is making waves with its bonus payouts. mary thompson has a flash. >> the company confirming that goldman has decided not to delay the bonus payments until april which would have allowed the bonuses to be taxed at a lower rate. goldman sachs' stock is slightly higher, about three-quarters of a...
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it is a tough environment for luxury as people trade down and start looking for bargains. joining us is susan lyne, chairman of gilt.com. she's also the former president and ceo of martha stewart living. also on set with us this morning our guest host, mellody hobson. susan thank you for joining us this morning. >> thank you. >> i checked out gilt.com and i have to say, these are great brands at great prices. >> it is. >> how do you offer some of the bargains you're offering? >> you know, we've got long relationships now, we're about five years old, with many of the top brands, and they realize this is a great way for them to sell excess inventory and everyone has excess inventory because these are event-based sales. they're quick. and consumers love them. >> i've seen you run out of stock quickly on these things. buy it now or it's gone type of situation. >> yep. >> is it a difficult environment for luxury right now? is that a fair estimation? >> our sector has had a fantastic holiday. we were up over 30% on gilt.com. >> but you're talking about bargain prices, where peop
it is a tough environment for luxury as people trade down and start looking for bargains. joining us is susan lyne, chairman of gilt.com. she's also the former president and ceo of martha stewart living. also on set with us this morning our guest host, mellody hobson. susan thank you for joining us this morning. >> thank you. >> i checked out gilt.com and i have to say, these are great brands at great prices. >> it is. >> how do you offer some of the bargains you're...
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this is a very good credit environment. but that is a huge amount of financing for an lbo. in fact we haven't seen something like that since the financial crisis, and you're not buying into a great road story here. you're not buying into energy. you're buying into dell. basically the banks would be asked to do a bet on the personal computer market. >> dan, the second piece of this, as i think about it, though, is this idea that you're actually going back to the club deal, right? you're having two firms club up, and now with something that was, almost, i thought it was now a relic of the 2007, '06, '05 and people were no longer going to do that, at best, they were going to partner potentially with their own limited partners like the pension funds but not necessarily together to fund themselves. >> yeah, and it's particularly interesting that tpg is involved in this. one of the biggest private equity firms in the world but they might have some troubles fund-raising next time out. their performance hasn't been good the last two funds. one of the things they've been telling the
this is a very good credit environment. but that is a huge amount of financing for an lbo. in fact we haven't seen something like that since the financial crisis, and you're not buying into a great road story here. you're not buying into energy. you're buying into dell. basically the banks would be asked to do a bet on the personal computer market. >> dan, the second piece of this, as i think about it, though, is this idea that you're actually going back to the club deal, right? you're...
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in the near term, overall performance of the pc client group is key to understanding the overall environment. but for the stock, the company's full year guidance, which we expect to hear, probably matters more so i'll be watching that. longer term, analysts need better evidence that intel really can gain ground in tablets and smartphones where so far, chip giant just hasn't made a dent. back to you. >> thank you for that, jon fortt. the other issue is inventory. that's been rising as a percent of revenues since the third quarter of last year. and that is -- they have to scale back production in order to cut back the inventory. >> they are so poorly positioned in the tablet space, tabletting are destroying laptops right now. if you talk about emerging market growth, it's again, back to that apple story. it's as a much lower gross margin. intel guided gross margins to 57%. that's the lowest since q-3 2009. i don't think it's a good press. it just rallied 10% off the november lows, but it's kind of in no man's land. you really need to get a sense how they are positioned. don't forget, they are
in the near term, overall performance of the pc client group is key to understanding the overall environment. but for the stock, the company's full year guidance, which we expect to hear, probably matters more so i'll be watching that. longer term, analysts need better evidence that intel really can gain ground in tablets and smartphones where so far, chip giant just hasn't made a dent. back to you. >> thank you for that, jon fortt. the other issue is inventory. that's been rising as a...
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i actually feel the environment is still tough, maybe getting more friendlives can i ask you about the rally we've had generally? it's notable that goldman sachs has outperformed both the ac and citi with an 18% rise in the stock over the last month. today, of course, you downgraded goldman sachs in the light of that move. where are you on the sort of share price movement that is we might see in those three and oats moves forward? >> to see additional up side in a broker dealing, you have to see the economy get better. that could happen. i'm hoping it will happened. i'm just not sure if this is the time to put new money into goldman sachs, if we're sure not sure that will play its way out. it's just a matter of, how long does it take for the uncertainty to get out of the way, so companies can get back to making acquisitions. >> jeff, do people give you a hard time when you cut the ratings and yet boost the price targets? that gets made fun of a lot. >> yeah, we do get some for it. the price target increase, it's very form layically driven. what our pick it into our what it's done over
i actually feel the environment is still tough, maybe getting more friendlives can i ask you about the rally we've had generally? it's notable that goldman sachs has outperformed both the ac and citi with an 18% rise in the stock over the last month. today, of course, you downgraded goldman sachs in the light of that move. where are you on the sort of share price movement that is we might see in those three and oats moves forward? >> to see additional up side in a broker dealing, you have...
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>> in this environment, we're actually asking our clients to think about three things. first we're going to have low interest rates for awhile. so they need to adjust their expected returns. so in a low interest rate environment we're going to have lower returns across all asset classes. second, we're telling our clients that as they think about the lower returns in the context of their portfolios, they also need to recognize that we are going to have volatility from incremental policy on a global basis. whether it's in the u.s., europe, japan or emerging market countries. we are expecting that policy, whether it's monetary policy adjustments, fiscal policy, it will all be incremental. and that will create market pressure because it won't be at a pace that the markets would like to see. so that will introduce volatility. and it's not something our clients should try to trace. they should look over the horizon and invest for the long run. >> looking at the long run, three to five-year term outlook if you look at those expected returns, what's interesting to me is that yo
>> in this environment, we're actually asking our clients to think about three things. first we're going to have low interest rates for awhile. so they need to adjust their expected returns. so in a low interest rate environment we're going to have lower returns across all asset classes. second, we're telling our clients that as they think about the lower returns in the context of their portfolios, they also need to recognize that we are going to have volatility from incremental policy on...
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the question people ask is, can we see anything from the fourth quarter that will tell us what the environment in 2013 is like. i guess my answer to that would still be no. fiscal cliff issues, europe, the election, tropical storms, et cetera, and there's still no real clarity on what the business models, investment banking are going to look like as we head toward three. it's going to be much better numbers than a year ago. numbers are going to be slightly down versus the third quarter. and -- to my mind, there's still really nothing we'll be able to take away from the numbers in terms of -- >> which is frustrating because we're at a time when we are trying to re-evaluate what the model is going to be, what earnings will look like going forward. in your view, what is -- what is the investment case for these investment banks today? >> well, the investment case for an investment bank is that when they work very well, they are extremely capital -- if i advise a company and get a fee for ecm or m&a deal, it requires no capital, and i get a lot of money. that's very attractive. the second thing is
the question people ask is, can we see anything from the fourth quarter that will tell us what the environment in 2013 is like. i guess my answer to that would still be no. fiscal cliff issues, europe, the election, tropical storms, et cetera, and there's still no real clarity on what the business models, investment banking are going to look like as we head toward three. it's going to be much better numbers than a year ago. numbers are going to be slightly down versus the third quarter. and --...